Three Ring Circus

November 12, 2007

Can doctors and patients be friends?

I was reading an interesting post by Dr Rob the other day. He was speculating the possibility of doctors and patients being friends and, in that context, disclosing information when having a particularly bad day. He wondered why patient’s asked how he was and attempted to probe into his life outside of his practice. He noted that he felt uncomfortable being dishonest and telling his patients that his life was fine, if it was not but in giving any personal information about himself  asked if that was crossing the line of professionalism.

I haven’t been able to shake this post for several days and have been going through it in my head.

Now, I know I have had a go at our paed for speaking about his hectic week, when mine was falling apart at the seams. I am willing to concede that I was stressed at the time and clearly feeling selfish and sorry for myself. As is usually the case when you are trying to contact a doctor.

I’m sorry for that, I am, because when I thought about it, I would much rather know if the twins’ paed is feeling out of sorts, so I know where we stand. 

I responded to Dr Rob’s post. I said that I knew when our paed was not feeling great because of his body language, his concentration levels and his ability to elaborate on things without being prompted.

Having thought about it, obsessively, for the last 48 hours, I have come to the conclusion that his disclosure of his difficulties and struggle to balance his professional and his home life means alot to me. It kind of puts us on even ground. Makes him human.

I know that we are not friends. We do not socialise but we do have a relationship. We talk. I am very open and honest about how I feel about doctors (he laughts it off). I have to say, I have come to feel comfortable with him, like an old slipper, really. I will question him if I am not sure about what he is proposing and I have sometimes challenged him too (I said sometimes, Mary, Tracey). I am one of the people who ask how he is and, I guess, I do like to get an honest response.

After all, he knows all about my babies. He knows my obstetric history, he knows our family and genetic history. He knows about my parent acopia and he has phoned me in the middle of complete and utter breakdown and listened as I bawled down the phone without hanging up in fear. The other day he saw me in the hospital, in trackies and a spew/snot/tear stained t - shirt with my hair like a birds nest and dark circles of worry under my red rimmed, tear filled eyes.

Now I don’t know about you but there are only a few men who have seen me that way… and he is one of the three on my list.

So to hear a bit about his life seems to balance things out.

This brings me to Andrew. The doctor who was there when William was born and was also the doctor who I trusted with the birth of Ivy and Noah. Things were weird between us for a while. After everything we went through together with William, I considered us friends. We spoke as friends. We shared things that friends would. He knew how I was feeling at a time when I was really bad at letting them show. If we were in town, we would drop in to see him. I have worked with him too as a midwife and we have shared a continuing ‘friendship’ through our work.

When I came to him pregnant with Ivy and Noah we instantly changed back to the professional relationship of doctor and patient. I hated it and all my trust in him evaporated because I thought we were friends and he was clearly not reciprocating. It was getting close to d - day and I was not sure I wanted Andrew to care for me any more because I felt he was putting up a fascade, not being honest with me.

Until there was an intervention by our mutual friend, Carolyn, and Andrew and I actually talked. The relief was instant (for both of us, I think). Things have been ok since and we have been able to find some balance.

Again, with Andrew, we don’t really socialise but I still feel that we are friends; because of what we went through together, because of what I have disclosed to him. So, our relationship is different again from that of the paediatrician. I appreciate him immensely.

What do you think? Is it possible to be friends with a doctor?  Does it change things too much? Should we keep our distance and not ask how our doctor is feeling, want to get to know them in the same way that they know about our lives?

For me, those questions have definately been food for thought.

Just on a side note; I suppose I’m thinking alot about this because I am going to read William’s and my hospital notes today with Andrew and straight after that we have Ivy’s sleep study interview…

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  1. I think knowing that they are having issues helps up to know that they are only human. However stuff that they have going on in their personal life should not affect their judgement, or treatment of their patients.

    Comment by Veronica — November 12, 2007 @ 9:39 am

  2. Some interesting questions. (Particularly because you are a nurse and so are supposed to just hate doctors as a matter of course, LOL!!!).
    Hope today went well, both with William’s notes and Ivy’s interview. xx

    Comment by Amy — November 12, 2007 @ 3:43 pm

  3. Difficult situation. My doctor has known me since I was a child. Even though I had high risk pregnancies I saw him for my checkups. He was shocked and called me at home when we moved away and Boo was diagnosed with Autism. He apologised for not picking it up. My parents have both been diagnosed with cancers via this man. I know him by his first name, as do my children.

    I know a little about his life. I went to his daughters funeral. However I don’t consider us ‘friends’, intimate acquaintances perhaps? He is the only man that has given me a pap smear or any of that girly stuff.

    If I see him in the street it is a quick ‘Hi’ no chatting. I think he prefers it that way. I think I would find it difficult to socialise with someone who knows more about my intimate details than my husband!

    Comment by Kelley — November 12, 2007 @ 4:18 pm

  4. Thanks for referencing me. I would say that I have a friendship with my patients, but the number of rules in those friendships are quite high. I actually take care of people who are my friends - so it goes both ways. Yet when I am in the role as a physician, I must remain as detached and careful about externals as is possible. I cannot let myself think “No, it could not be cancer,” if cancer should be considered. I can’t take a visit that is focused on the care of the patient and turn it into a therapy session for myself. There are rules and these rules may exist in other friendships as well. They are just more obvious in this circumstance.

    Comment by Rob — November 13, 2007 @ 3:43 am

  5. Thanks Rob for replying. It is so interesting hearing it straight from the doctors mouth, so to speak. It’s not something that I have openly discussed with our doctors or our friends who are doctors. I understand what you are saying.; that you can be friends with your clients but with limits.

    Comment by Tiff — November 14, 2007 @ 5:43 am

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